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Poster: Moongleam Date: Oct 13, 2012 3:31am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Got a question

It seems that season 1 of "The Invaders" lacked copyright notices.

Video-Cellar wrote:


If a TV show meets all of those criteria it is public domain. If it was pretaped (on film or video) contained no notice and was network broadcast, repeated, syndicated, etc and was made before 1978 it would be PD regardless of whether it was ever reg'd with the copyright office. A show made between 1978-1 March 89 could be redeemed by being registered within 5 years from broadcast/publication date to secure copyright.

I know that that opens up a lot of show. Particularly late 60s daytime TV, game shows and Late night shows. EG The Dick Cavett Show didn't carry notices until about 1972 and season one of Star Trek and The Invaders fall into this catagory too. But this does tend to bring out the networks/producers and their wicked copyfraudulent ways. So look for possible "underlying" copyrights.


http://archive.org/post/230566/hey-video-cellar-i-need-help-confirming-item-is-pd

However, Alpha Video is apparently afraid to sell these shows. I guess they realize that the courts will twist the laws to suit the corporation that claims the copyright.

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 13, 2012 8:57am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Got a question

So does that mean I can upload the first season of The Invaders?
Quigs

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Oct 13, 2012 4:30pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Copyright status of "The Invaders"

Perhaps. But remember what Video-Cellar later said about Star Trek: the court ruled that even though the first season of Star Trek was watched by millions of people on broadcast television, it wasn't published until it was released on VHS tape! (see below)

I guess the worst that could happen is that the shows would be taken down when the corporation complains to the Archive?

Are you sure that the copies you have don't have copyright notices? (They could have been added later.)

Video-Cellar:

However, I also have 3 episodes [of Mannix] in exact copies of original network prints. There is no notice in the credits or under the Desilu logo on any of these episodes. The episodes are "The Pilot", "Nothing Ever Works Twice" and "The Cost of a Vacation". But, with the Desilu's Star Trek situation (no notices on the prints but a court decision finding that they had not been published before they were officially released on VHS with a notice and were therefore copyright), I am not sure that means anything.



This post was modified by Moongleam on 2012-10-13 23:30:20

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Oct 13, 2012 4:22pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: OT: Outlaws

If anyone is interested, I'm uploading another episode of Outlaws: "The Last Chance".

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 13, 2012 4:26pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: OT: Outlaws

I am interested. Been waiting but worth the wait.
Quigs.

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 13, 2012 4:27pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright status of 'The Invaders'

Well, I will put up the extended pilot that no one saw, how's that? After the smoke clears, I'll put up more.
Quigs

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Oct 13, 2012 4:32pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Where is Video-Cellar?

Good luck. Perhaps Video-Cellar will chime in.

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 13, 2012 5:10pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Where is Video-Cellar?

I hope so. In a good way; if not, sigh I'll take it down.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Oct 13, 2012 7:58pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Where is Video-Cellar?

Nothing to sigh about, after all, you already have the first season on DVD, right?

Incidentally, I believe there exists, stashed away somewhere, an even longer version of the pilot episode. As far as I know however, it's not available anywhere.

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 13, 2012 8:18pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Where is Video-Cellar?

That's what I am trying to download now but I get server error a lot. So, I going to try again. This will be third attempt. Yes, I have the first season.
Quigs

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